James
Carey, Columbia Univ.
Bernard Kalb, journalist
Marvin Kalb, Harvard University
Moderator: David Thorburn,
MIT
An
audiorecording of News
During Wartime is now available.
SUMMARY
BERNARD KALB
began with a reminiscence about Vietnam (in which he served as a
field correspondent), noting that it was hard to believe, at the
time, that the B-52's then bombing the country around him were the
same ones shown on television. Vietnam became a recurring point
of comparison during the session; Bernard commented that the brevity
of the Iraq war made mass disillusionment impossible, allowing all
sides in the debates over the war to remain where they began, namely
with their foregone conclusions. He also linked coverage of the
Vietnam war to coverage of the first Gulf war, contrasting the "ignorance"
of journalists' coverage of those actions - both conflicts took
place in worlds about which Americans have traditionally been expected
to know precious little - with the second Persian Gulf war in which
journalists had "no excuse" for their ignorance of Middle
Eastern culture and politics.
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JAMES CAREY
spoke about the national character of the world's major TV systems:
whether commercial or state-supported,
they often bear the names of their countries of origin. Marvin Kalb
would point to the same fact moments later, but for Carey this was
a problematic notion: "there is no Archimedean point in the
universe from which these events can be seen objectively,"
he noted, but he was clear not to excuse incomplete coverage on
the basis of that fact. Speaking of Al-Jazeera, he pointed out that,
had the Iraqis won the war, Al-Jazeera would have certainly focused
on that military victory, rather than on civilian casualties (which
have received much coverage in the international press but little
in the mainstream U.S. media). He then pointed to Seymour Hersh's
story in the New Yorker about the forgery of documents linking
Saddam Hussein to terrorism, which received minimal attention in
other American news outlets. There is plenty wrong with U.S. journalism
in a variety of media, he said, extending the problem beyond the
sensationalizing tendencies of TV.
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MARVIN KALB
opened with the claim the word "bias" is over-used
and "plays to an ill-informed
audience." After all, he said, "When a nation goes to
war, its journalists go to war, too." He stressed that claims
of deliberate bias are overblown; the bombing of Baghdad was filmed
from a single faraway spot not because of the desire to minimize
the representation of Iraqi casualties, he said, but because that
was the only vantage point granted to reporters by the Iraqi regime.
He went on to say that the press does not withhold footage of civilian
casualties and gruesome death out of any desire to blackout coverage,
or because the audience is unwilling to see such images. It is simply
the case that the audience - the American TV news audience, specifically
- does not demand them.
Discussion
The first questioner
mentioned a CNN reporter allegedly claimed that the network specifically
ordered him not to show images of civilian casualties. The Kalbs
doubted this claim. Bernard said that he'd "done interviews
with more than twenty embedded journalists; not a single one even
suggested that at any time the military stopped them from doing
anything." Marvin called for specificity: one station, CNN,
actively made this choice at an editorial level. But did all stations
make the same choice for the same reasons? Carey said the issue
was a recurring one in American journalism. The closer people get
to the dead, the more upsetting it is, which is why the New York
Times received complaints about their photos of people leaping
from the burning World Trade Center, on the grounds that it invaded
the privacy of the dead. The bodies of the unknown and faraway are
less upsetting, of course - Iraqi casualties are easier to stomach
- but "when the lights go up" in newsrooms (indicating
viewer objections), it's often on the exposure of a body in an "inappropriate"
situation.
Another audience
member drew the link between news and marketing: it's not a matter
of sensitivities; it's about whether the news broadcast will help
advertisers sell hemorrhoid medication.
The next questioner
asked: could the U.S. media do more to enhance the freedom of people
everywhere with less biased, more objective coverage? The questioner
spoke as well of lack of context, which everyone in the audience
would agree was a problem. Bernard agreed that more context was
called for, but claimed that such context is available to the U.S.
TV audience; in contrast, Carey remarked that (for instance) pro-Israel
bias results from, among other things, "the relative absence
of indigenous Palestinian voices in the U.S."
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The next set
of questions pertained to embedded journalists. Asked to give their
"report cards" on the performance of this new breed of
wartime coverage, each speaker gave a different view of the matter.
Marvin Kalb quickly responded: "I give embedded journalism
an A-." From the standpoint of journalists and the Pentagon,
he said, it was a "terrifically successful experiment."
For every embedded reporter, he reminded the audience, at least
one non-embedded "unilateral" was present in the theater
of war, and the "totality" of that coverage yielded good
results.
Carey was more
dubious; he claimed that GI's don't like having to protect journalists,
and that this close relationship makes objective journalism impossible
in any case. And had the war gone on for a year, Carey argued, we
have no idea what coverage would have been like. Bernard Kalb responded
to Carey's claims about GI/reporter antipathy by pointing out that
his experience has been quite different: soldiers tend to see reporters
as an outlet. "I've spoken to no one at the Pentagon, so I
can speak with great authority," he joked. How do you rebuild
trust between the Pentagon and the press corps in the wake of Vietnam
and the press blackout in Afghanistan? Provide "total"
access. We saw this most recent war through a microscope rather
than binoculars - trading breadth of coverage for unparalleled detail
and access.
A question about
the camera's point of view - an old concept for film studies - provoked
a strong reaction from the Brothers Kalb: given that the camera
can make us feel for its subject regardless of our moral stance,
hasn't the U.S. government's action in Iraq worked just that way,
to establish inherent sympathy for the American soldiers? The ensuing
exchange got defensive ("the reporter isn't a robot!"),
but the basic point came across from the Kalbs that TV coverage
isn't the only coverage available, and that other modes of representation
somehow allowed for more complete coverage.
Though a questioner
repeatedly tried to get the Kalbs to concede that embedded journalism
had to be more pro-U.S. than freelance work, they were adamant about
the success of the program.
In response
to a series of comments from the audience about the jingoistic quality
of American news coverage, Carey emphasized "complexity"
of the journalist's situation: "You can't maintain opposition
to an interventionist government policy unless the opposition party
stands with you," he said. "Where's the Democratic Party?"
he asked.
The conversation
then shifted to coverage of the looting in Baghdad. Bernard said
fairly simply that the story was overplayed, but that thankfully
"we've seen reality shrink the story." "But it doesn't
change it," Carey replied, calling the story a missed opportunity
for "real learning" about a culture with a wholly different
notion of antiquity from that of the U.S.
The influence
of Rupert Murdoch's global media empire was mentioned by several
in the audience, particularly in light of the perceived right-wing
bias of the reporting on the Fox TV network, a Murdoch holding.
Carey downplayed his importance - citing Fox's "small ratings,"
a notion the audience seemed to doubt - but noted that the exporting
of the Fox News Empire worldwide was a cause for heightened concern.
Marvin Kalb
said that Fox has politicized news coverage by giving the impression
of supporting the administration, of being a Republican organ -
thereby making everything else appear to be on the Left. "That's
nonsense," he said, "but nonsense that's spreading."
The final question
came from conference co-organizer William Uricchio, who asked whether
the gross lack of knowledge on the part of the general viewing public
- 51% of whom were said to believe that Saddam Hussein was directly
responsible for 9/11 - was mere ignorance, or willful misinformation,
or indicative of how journalism really works? Bernard responded
with "all of the above," but Carey repeated his pragmatic
call for "organized political force" working to combat
this misinformation and misuse of the power of media.
--
compiled by Walter Holland
--photos by Nicole Burkart and Lilly Kam
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